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| rico
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11/11/04 9:11am Advice on new rods... |
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I'm new to the site. I purchased my first He70mc rod which I really like.I know that you guys know a lot about the rods and I need some advice on what paticular rods to get when fishing these things :
jig
Jerkbait
tubes
spinnder baits
top water
senkos
I'm looking to purchase 4 to 5 new rods. any help is appreciated if you have links to the rods thats even better. thanks in advance
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| kistlero
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11/11/04 9:28am |
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Rico,
One can get overly picky with which rod to use when and where. I will try and make it simple with my suggestions below:
Jig - He70HC
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Jerkbait and Topwaters- He66MC
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Tubes - He69HC
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Spinnerbaits - He69APC
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Senkos - He70MHC
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I hope this helps. If you need more detailed information, feel free to call us anytime and we will walk you through each rod choice.
Trey
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| TTCal
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11/11/04 9:50am Re: Advice on new rods... |
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Hmmmm.... not to go against the CEO, but here are my rec's... in the case where I've listed or than one, the rods are listed in order of preference and based on what i've owned and fished... 
jig - He76HC
Jerkbait - don't use them... Trey's rec sounds right though - a 6'6" stick.
tubes - He70MC
spinner baits - He69APC
top water -
- Buzzbaits - He70MHC, He76HC
- Pastic Frogs (by Zoom and Sizmic) - He76HC
senkos -
- 5" and below - He69APC or He70MC
- 5" and over - He76HC
Hope that helps 
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| earthworm77
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11/11/04 10:20am |
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Here is what I recommend for LI waters and most in the Tri State area:
Spinnerbaits/Cranks- He70MC
Tubes--He66MS
Jigs-He70MHC
Plastics-Casting-He66MC
spinning- He66MS
Light stuff-He66MLS
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| Lightninrod
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11/11/04 11:43am |
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I use three HE70MCs for all techniques you referrred to except pitching a jig and I use my HE76HC or my HE76XHC for that.
I am a firm believer in keeping my rods as similar as I can and I truly believe that Kistler's HE70MC is their best all-round rod. It's the best(IMO) for all(except heavy baits like swimbaits) treble hook baits as well as single hook baits as in soft-plastics, buzzbaits, and spinnerbaits. Now having said that, I have not used any of their APC rods.
Dan
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| rico
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11/11/04 11:55am |
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Thanks for all your help I knew I could count on you guys. I'll be placing orders with Clifford this week
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| Guest
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11/11/04 12:00pm rods |
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I am in love with my 69apc i would suggest making sure you get on of those for spinnerbaits/rattletraps and if you throw the 100 pointer or other big jerkbaits it fits them real nicely. You will not be disappointed except for : the fact you will have to keep buying them bc they are addicting 
Alex
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| nemorino
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11/11/04 4:42pm |
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How different is the action of a 69apc and a 70MHC?
Also, Sol or Fuego for a 70MC?
I know I will hear alot about Alphas but 1) Have to save for my next helium  2) Affraid of service problems with Japanese version reels. 
Btw, I have a 70MC...should my next rod be a 70MHC or a 70HC? If it helps I mainly fish southern california lakes on a pontoon boat.
I am another broke angler who is trying to maximize what he buys.
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| earthworm77
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11/11/04 7:59pm |
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Way to go Joe! You will be getting some great rods.
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| Lightninrod
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11/12/04 6:54am |
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| nemorino wrote: | How different is the action of a 69apc and a 70MHC?
Also, Sol or Fuego for a 70MC?
I know I will hear alot about Alphas but 1) Have to save for my next helium 2) Affraid of service problems with Japanese version reels.
Btw, I have a 70MC...should my next rod be a 70MHC or a 70HC? If it helps I mainly fish southern california lakes on a pontoon boat.
I am another broke angler who is trying to maximize what he buys. |
Unless you're going to be pitching a jig or throwing some swimbaits, I'd get another HE70MC. That model Helium just covers so many techniques IMO.
Dan
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| TTCal
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11/12/04 10:01am |
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| nemorino wrote: | How different is the action of a 69apc and a 70MHC?
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Nemorino,
The He69APC's tip is closer to the He70MC but it shares a similar backbone t othat of the He70MHC. The He70MHC doesn't load quite as easily as the He69APC for casts, but is also a more stout rod.
If the He70MC is classified as a 2 power rod, and the He70MHC a 3, I'd stick the He69APC right in the middle at 2.5. It bridges the gap nicely and is a very very versatile rod - hence the designation of "All Purpose".
As for length, it is only 1.5" shorter in effective length from reel seat to the tip from the 7'0" Helium sticks. The other 1.5" is made up in a shorter handle when compared to the 7'0" rods.
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| nemorino
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11/12/04 4:21pm |
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Hey Dan,
which reel would you recommend for the 70MC? Sol or Fuego?
Sonny
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| Lightninrod
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11/12/04 6:21pm |
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| nemorino wrote: | Hey Dan,
which reel would you recommend for the 70MC? Sol or Fuego?
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Sonny: Thanks for the compliment implied in asking but I'm the wrong guy to ask about them. I've never held much less, used one but here is a [-- login to view link --] review of them.
Hopefully, sdesign/CAL will see your question. He is my "go to" Reel-Man and he has some experience with one or both I think.
Dan
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| TTCal
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11/12/04 8:00pm |
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| Lightninrod wrote: |
Hopefully, sdesign/CAL will see your question. He is my "go to" Reel-Man and he has some experience with one or both I think.
Dan |
Dan, you're too kind... unfortunately, I did not reply because I've not used the Fuego or the Sol. The Sol is the American market version of the Alphas. Not sure what differences there are, if any. But I'd make my decision by going to the store and playing with them if you can Nemorino.
Also, keep in mind the Fuego is an MG reel, so if you use your setups in salt or brackish environments, you have to take a little extra care with the Fuego to ensure it doesn't corrode prematurely - though MG is inherently unsafe in salt and brackish environments many anglers fish MG reels in them anyway just taking extra care to clean and protect the reels before and after every trip.
The weight savings in MG reels makes them worth it. However, the Sol and Fuego are the same weight - go figure. I suggest going to your local shop and holding each one in your hand - even bring your He70MC along to see which one feels better on the rod ergonomically.
sorry i can't offer any more than that.
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